What up everyone and welcome to another McInterview. This time I interviewed NYWC Senior Official, Referee Chris Jackson. Even though Chris Jackson likes the capslock button, this interview came out very well. Read below to find out more about the NYWC, the art of reffing and more.

Sean “The MiC” McCaffrey: Why did you want to get into pro wrestling? Did you always want to be a referee, or did you want to be a wrestler?

Ref Chris Jackson: I WAS ALWAYS A FAN AS A KID. GROWING UP MY FATHER AND SOME OF HIS FRIENDS WERE BIG TIME FANS OF WRESTLING. I REMEMBER SEEING MY FIRST SHOW WHEN I WAS 5. NASSAU COLISEUM, THE JUNKYARD DOG VS. GREG "THE HAMMER" VALENTINE. AFTER THAT NIGHT I KNEW THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I HAD TO BE A PART OF! I DIDN'T WANT TO BE A REF WHEN I WAS A KID THOUGH , WHO TURNS ON WRESTLING AND SAYS "HMMM I WONDER IF EARL HEBNER IS REFFING THE MAIN EVENT", I JUST KNEW THAT I WANTED TO BE AS MUCH IN WRESTLING AS I COULD, REFFING WAS SOMETHING I JUST FELL INTO. SO FAR IT HAS BEEN PRETTY GOOD TO ME!

Sean “The MiC” McCaffrey: You come from the Critical Mass School, which is rapidly getting one of the better reputations for students who are interested in wrestling training. What is it like in Critical Mass, and what does Critical Mass offer that no other wrestling facility offers?

Ref Chris Jackson: AT CRITICAL MASS THE STUDENT IS THE BIGGEST PRIORITY. CURSE , TYLER, DICKIE, CRUSHER DOOGAN AND WHOEVER ELSE HELPS OUT BREAK THEIR ASSES TO MAKE SURE YOU LEARN THE RIGHT WAY TO WRESTLE. BETWEEN TRAINING AND PHYSICAL CONDITIONING YOU GET THE FULL TREATMENT.

PLUS CRITICAL MASS IS LIKE A FAMILY EVERYONE IS ALWAYS LOOKING OUT FOR EACHOTHER. I REMEMBER SHORTLY AFTER I STARTED TRAINING I LEFT VERY SUDDENLY DUE TO A GOOD FRIEND DYING IN A CAR ACCIDENT.IT REALLY GOT ME DEPRESSED. I WAS GONE FOR ALMOST THREE MONTHS. NO ONE KNEW WHERE I WAS OR WHAT HAPPEND TO ME,I WAS A LITLLE SCARED TO GO BACK BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE WOULD THINK ABOUT ME BEING GONE FOR SO LONG WITHOUT TALKING TO ANYONE. WHEN I FINALLY SHOWED MY FACE AGAIN, EVERYONE WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE ME.IT WAS A TOTAL SURPRISE. THE ONLY CONCERN PEOPLE HAD WAS IF I WAS OKAY. TELL ME WHERE ELSE YOU CAN FIND THAT IN WRESTLING!!!

Sean “The MiC” McCaffrey: Growing up, were you a fan of the referees or was it something that you appreciated later?

Ref Chris Jackson: LIKE I SAID BEFORE I WASN'T A FAN OF REFS GROWING UP. I REALLY DIDN'T START APPRECIATING THE JOB OF REFEREE UNTIL I BECAME ONE.

Sean “The MiC” McCaffrey: Can you explain the art of reffing and what it takes to be a good referee?

Ref Chris Jackson: REFFING IS NOT AS EASY AS IT LOOKS. THE WHOLE "ART" OF IT IS BEING IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME, BEING QUICK ON YOUR FEET, AND TRYING TO STAY OUT OF THE WAY OF DANGER(YEAH WHEN DOES THAT EVER HAPPEN). AS FOR WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A GOOD REF, I'M NOT SURE, IM STILL A STUDENT OF THE GAME AND THERE ARE ALOT OF THINGS THAT I WOULD STILL LIKE TO LEARN.

Sean “The MiC” McCaffrey: What is the best match you ever reffed? Worst match?

Ref Chris Jackson: THE BEST MATCH HAD TO HAVE BEEN DICKIE RODZ VS. LIVEWYRE. THE MATCH WORKED ON TWO LEVELS. IT WAS A GREAT SEND-OFF FOR ONE OUR BEST WORKERS AND FRIENDS, AND IT SHOWED EVERYBODY (INCLUDING YOU MIC!) JUST WHAT A GREAT WRESTLER DICKIE RODZ REALLY IS. COMBINE THAT WITH THE FACT THAT THE CROWD WAS INTO THE WHOLE MATCH.

I DON'T THINK THAT I HAVE BEEN IN ANY REALLY BAD MATCHES. AT WORST SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN LESS THAN MEMORABLE. BUT NOTHING THAT I WOULD CALL THE WORST.

Sean “The MiC” McCaffrey: You have worked primarily for NYWC, on their RAMPAGE shows. Are you looking to branch out for more work, or satisfied just reffing in NYWC?

Ref Chris Jackson: IM ALWAYS LOOKING FOR MORE WORK, I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO THE BOOKER FROM SSCW ABOUT WORKING THEIR NEXT SHOW (HINT). BUT I LOVE NYWC AND THAT WILL ALWAYS BE MY HOME AND FIRST PRIORITY.

Sean “The MiC” McCaffrey: Have you ever gotten heat from a wrestler for messing something up in the ring? How about from fans?

Ref Chris Jackson: I NEVER REALLY GOT ANY HEAT ( AT LEAST NONE THAT I KNOW OF) FROM ANY WRESTLERS. THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK OF WAS ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WHEN DICKIE RODZ WON THE TITLE FROM TYLER PAYNE. RODZ HAD PAYNE IN A SHARPSHOOTER AND PAYNE WAS TAPPING OUT, I WAITED A FEW SECONDS TO CALL FOR THE BELL. IT CAUSED TYLER'S BACK TO STIFFEN UP PRETTY BAD. TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE THAT WEEK HE WAS SET TO MAKE HIS DEBUT WITH ECWA. HE WAS A LITTLE MAD BUT ALL AND ALL REALLY COOL ABOUT IT, BUT I STILL FELT REALLY BAD!

Sean “The MiC” McCaffrey: How come referees usually miss the important stuff in the ring, such as people getting wacked with chairs, the good guys making tags but allowing the bad guys to run in without a tag, etc?

Ref Chris Jackson: BECAUSE ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO BE A REF IS YOU HAVE TO BE MILDLY RETARTED (JOKE)

Sean “The MiC” McCaffrey: Out of all the refs, indy or WWE, who do you like best?

Ref Chris Jackson: ACTUALLY MOST REFS YOU SEE IN THE INDY'S ARE REALLY GOOD. SEAN HANSEN IS GREAT ,SO IS ANDRE FROM NYWC, AND BILLY CAPUTO IS STRAIGHT UP THE MAN

Sean “The MiC” McCaffrey: Do you study other refs to pick up pointers?

Ref Chris Jackson: I TRY TO WATCH WHAT OTHER REFS DO (LIKE ANDRE AND REF HANSEN). BUT FOR THE MOST PART I ASK PEOPLE TO WATCH WHAT I DO AND TELL ME IF I CAN IMPROVE ON SOMETHING. I'M ALWAYS TRYING TO GET A LITTLE BETTER THAN BEFORE.

WORD ASSOCIATION

CURSE
- NYWC'S ICON AND ONE OF MY HEROES. GAVE ME A CHANCE AND NEVER STOPPED BELIEVING IN ME, HAS ALL OF MY RESPECT
GREG STENGAL
- ONE OF THE GUYS RESPONSIBLE FOR TRANFORMING NYWC FROM A SCHOOL FED, TO A TRUE INDY POWERHOUSE. GREAT GUY TO WORK WITH

REF ANDRE
- GLAD TO HAVE HIM BACK,ONE OF THE MAIN GUYS I GO TO FOR POINTERS

REF HEBNER
- PRETTY BADASS FOR A LITTLE GUY

REF PATRICK
- LIKED HIM BETTER AS THE nWo SENIOR OFFICIAL

REF HANSON
- LOADED WITH ENERGY AND PRETTY TOUGH, CONSTANTLY GETTING MESSED UP IN THE RING BUT STILL MANAGES TO FINISH THE SHOW

REF GARRY
- I HAVENT SEEN TOO MANY OF HIS MATCHES BUT HEARD GREAT THINGS

TYLER PAYNE
- AMAZING WRESTLER ,LIVES FOR WRESTLING, ALWAYS HAS CONFIDENCE IN MY ABILITIES EVEN WHEN I DON'T HAVE IT MYSELF

RU STARR
- ANOTHER GREAT TALENT,SHOULD HAVE BEEN WRESTLING 20 YEARS AGO, TRUE KING OF OLD SCHOOL

THE SOLUTION
- THE NEXT BIG TAG-TEAM, DEFINATELY GOING PLACES,GREAT GUYS.

GRIM REEFER
- TAKES INSANE RISKS, GREAT GIMMICK! ALWAYS FUN TO WORK WITH

JOHNNY OVA
- OVA! POSSIBLE FUTURE WWE SUPERSTAR ANOTHER GUY WHO LIVES FOR THIS BUSINESS

LIVEWYRE
- SO PROUD OF HIM. I'VE SAID IT 100 TIMES HE IS GONNA BE THE ONE TO SAVE THE WWE, CHECK OUT HIS PROFILE AT www.ovwrestling.com UNDER THE NAME MIKE MONDO

DAN BARRY
- THE CHAMP PLAIN AND SIMPLE! RIDICULOUS FINISHER(IRISH CAR BOMB)ANOTHER POSSIBLE FUTURE WWE SUPERSTAR.

DICKIE RODZ
- TRUE FRIEND, I COULD TALK TO HIM ABOUT ANYTHING, SOMEONE I WOULD DO ALMOST ANYTHING FOR

SILVAMAN
- I DON'T KNOW WHY EVERYONE SAYS HE IS REALLY J-SILVA

SVS
- WITHOUT A DOUBT ONE OF THE BEST HEELS IN INDY WRESTLING, THE GUYS A HEAT MACHINE

DANGEROUS DAN
-WHO???

PRINCE CHARLES
- NYWC'S BROTHER LOVE HIS SHOW GETS BETTER AND BETTER EVERYTIME, WILL DO ANYTHING TO ENTERTAIN THE CROWD(EVEN PISS HIMSELF)

NICK VRONA
- MY TAG TEAM PARTNER, SUPER ANNOUNCER EXTROADINARE!

DAMIAN DRAGON
- EVEN MAKES ME CURIOUS ABOUT GOTH

KING NOTHING
- AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! MISS WORKING WITH HIM

WAYNE
- GREAT WRESTLER, HE CALLS ME "GARBAGEMAN STEVE" FOR SOME REASON

JOHN SHANE
- ONE OF THE BEST MANAGERS IN WRESTLING, NOT JUST THE INDYS, ALL OF WRESTLING

CRUSHER DOOGAN
-"CAUCASION MR. FUJI", BUT SERIOUSLY JUST LIKE DEAN MALENKO(HIS TRAINER) HE IS "THE MAN OF 1000 HOLDS". THE BEST GUY TO LEARN SUBMISSION FROM

BASTION BOOGER
- HANDSOME GUY

GIANT GONZALES
- I HAVE TIGHTS JUST LIKE THAT

BOTTOM RING ROPE
-MADE SLINGBLADE CARL ITS BITCH

DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENTS
- BEST SOURCE FOR INDY WRESTLING TODAY

REF JACKSON
- LUCKY GUY, I LOVE WHAT I DO AND GET TO WORK THE GREATEST ATHLETES IN THE WORLD. I THANK GOD FOR EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT I HAVE, AND HAVE COMING

Sean “The MiC” McCaffrey: Who would you rather chill with, Britney Spears or Christina Aguilera?

Ref Chris Jackson: CHRISTINA AGUILERA! I GOT A THING FOR DIRTY GIRLS!

Sean “The MiC” McCaffrey: What's a normal day in the life of Chris Jackson?

Ref Chris Jackson: BETWEEN WORK AND FAMILY LIFE MY SCHEDULE IS PRETTY FULL. MY DAY STARTS AROUND 5AM AND ENDS AROUND MIDNIGHT. AND SOMEWHERE IN THERE I MANAGE TO FIT WORKING OUT IN

Sean “The MiC” McCaffrey: What's the garbage situation on the North Shore?

Ref Chris Jackson: LOL! VERY FUNNY, BUT IM NOT A GARBAGEMAN ANYMORE, THATS WHERE I GOT THE NICKNAME GARBAGEMAN CHRIS (STILL DON'T KNOW WHERE WAYNE GOT STEVE FROM THOUGH). ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO I BECAME AN E.M.T. FOR THE F.D.N.Y. BESIDES WRESTLING THAT WAS MY DREAM.

Sean “The MiC” McCaffrey: Do you have any prematch superstitions?

Ref Chris Jackson: NOT REALLY SUPERSTITIONS BUT I HAVE SOME RITUALS, I LISTEN TO "PARTY HARD" BY ANDREW W.K., AND "BREATHE" BY PRODIGY AT LEAST FIVE OR SIX TIMES EACH. HARDCORE SONGS LIKE THAT DEFINITELY GETS YOUR HEART POUNDING.THEN I HAVE WHAT I LIKE TO CALL "THE CHRIS JACKSON BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS" WHICH IS A PACK OF FUN DIP, CHASE IT WITH A COCA-COLA SUPER SLURPEE WITH EXTRA SYRUP, AND A STACKER 2. THAT ALSO GETS YOUR HEART POUNDING BUT IT GIVES YOU UNLIMITED ENERGY FOR THE WHOLE NIGHT.

Sean “The MiC” McCaffrey: What are your career goals?

Ref Chris Jackson: JUST TO STAY WITH WRESTLING AS LONG AS I CAN, AND AT THE SAME TIME ADVANCE UP THE RANKS OF THE CITY FIRE DEPT. I WILL ALSO HELP OUT WITH WHATEVER I CAN TO MAKE NYWC EVEN MORE SUCCESSFUL THEN IT ALREADY IS.

Sean “The MiC” McCaffrey: What do you want to say to anyone reading this?

Ref Chris Jackson: IT'S FUNNY, AS IM ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS IM WATCHING THE FIRST NYWC SHOW ON PUBLIC ACCESS( CHECK OUT www.nywcwrestling.com FOR LISTINGS) AND IM JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW FAR WE HAVE COME. WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL SHOWS IN DEER PARK NOW, WITH EACH ONE A LITTLE BETTER THEN THE NEXT. THATS WHY IM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT OUR NEXT ONE ON OCTOBER 25TH. I JUST WANNA TAKE THIS TIME TO SAY THANKS TO THE FANS FOR SUPPORTING NYWC AND HELP MAKING IT WHAT IT IS TODAY! AND IF YOU LIKE US NOW, YOU AINT SEEN NOTHING YET!!!

REMEMBER:
NYWC RAMPAGE!
SATURDAY NIGHT OCTOBER 25TH
DEER PARK COMMUNITY CENTER
7:30PM BELLTIME
TICKETS ARE ONLY 10 BUCKS!
FOR MORE INFO CHECK OUT:
www.nywcwrestling.com

Sean “The MiC” McCaffrey: Thanks for the interview.